"the one sacred book that thus from first to last declares its author to be jehovah god is the holy bible.
" (w60 10/1 p. 584 par.
5 the holy biblethe book by jehovahs witnesses).
@ palmtree67 - It was brotherdan that said he saw GB members at Bethel signing Bibles. And forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think it was baltar447 that called him out on it, which I was happy to see at the time.
I admit, I doubted too because while I was at Bethel, I never saw it happen.
But this is direct evidence, and disgusting, to say the least.
CoC
as i grow older, and perhaps more controled by satan.
;) there is something i can not help but conclude.
it is the fact that christianity only exist, because it was born in a time in which there was no media, communications, and possible chance of being proven wrong.
I clicked on this thread yesterday but didn't get a chance to read through it. Now I have one word - awesome!
What I find interesting is that Paul's letters were written to specific congregations, and as was mentioned, to possibly address certain issues within them.
Yet Christianity has formed "laws" from things that are found within those letters. They claim that these were written for us, the modern day congregation.
If a dear friend wrote you a letter, pointing out certain things that he's noticed about you, would you expect anyone else you let read it to feel the letter applied to them also? Sure, they may find something touching that can move them, but should or would they make the claim to saying this was written to them personally?
Isn't this what has been done with these letters that supposedly Paul and other apostles wrote? Especially within the JW religion do we find theses Bible "laws" often hidden behind what they like to call a principle.
I agree that there is much we can learn from the Bible. But to take it literal as if a man that wrote a letter over 1,000 years and more ago is just, IMHO, now, completely absurd.
I've looked back at some of the love letters my wife and I wrote each other over 10 years ago. And were anyone to read them now, should I expect anyone to feel the content within it was directed to them, unless I mentioned them in the letter? No, and this is how I currently feel about the Bible.
CoC
if it becomes obvious to strangers on an internet message board that you should get therapy/counseling:.
my wife and i are in therapy both separately and together.
we're not crazy; we're getting help talking through issues we've never had to face before from a professional who knows how to talk us through things.
I LOVE therapy!! There, I said it. LOL
I began going primarily to confront feelings I had regarding physical abuse from my father while growing up. But at the same time, I was facing feelings of burnout in my "service" to Jehovah. I was begining to wake up and so a lot of the ridiculous things in the org that I ignored finally began to bother me and I had to address them.
These days I find myself much calmer and happier, though I am generally a happy person. My doctor has even pointed that out to me.
What I really enjoy about therapy is definitely the perspective that is given you. But a therapist DOES NOT solve your problems. Rather, as has been mentioned here, they help you to understand why you feel the way you do and often offer practical suggestions. The rest is up to you. You must be proactive in applying some, if not all, of the suggestions you receive.
I feel that therapy has, in a large way, contributed to giving me the boldness to make my own decisions rather than continuing living to please men.
I absolutely encourage those with the resources and opportunities to take advantage of it. And no, you're not crazy for doing it. Give it a chance.
CoC
when was the last time that the watchtower published an article that attempted to prove the year 607 b.c.e.
was correct over the year 587 b.c.e.?.
the watchtower now simply mentions the year in its publications without attempting to justify it.. proof through repetition?.
Marked - to have Blondie's collection of Watchtower quotes on this subject organized and on hand.
Thanks Blondie!!
CoC
condemn the adulterers too.
may 21, 2010. from jill carroll, houston religion expert and author.
this weeks' news brought us the story of a catholic elementary school rescinding the acceptance of a child because his parents are lesbians.
disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
@ TheJigsUp - The country of Panama currently offers delivery service not only at KFC but also other fast food restaurants like McDonald's, Burger King, etc. Obesity at it's finest.
We can now return to our blinded Spade thread. Somewhat sorry to derail.
CoC
disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
If you recall Spade's original story, he/she/it wasn't a witness, but merely spoke with those that were studying with its "wife".
For "not being" a witness, it sure is savy with those Watchtower quotes, and it even has a copy of the Watchtower library!
Things that make you go.................................hmmmmm.
Will it return to it's post, or will it continue to be blinded? I'm opting for the latter.
And yes Spade, you can view this contribution to your thread as nothing worthwhile in your eyes.
CoC
disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.
carl o. jonsson).
along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.
Once again, YOU ARE ON AN "APOSTATE" WEBSITE!!
Why are you continually trying to teach something here when you could be "helping" people at empty homes?
Oh, I see. You and the GB are cool like that. You got special permission to post here.
Seems like you should be the one bugging off. With so much copying and pasting, I can only imagine your Watchtower study comments. Word-for-word.
Go knock on a door or on your head. Take your pick.
CoC
i am a 32 old woman live in the netherlands.
like to make friends all over the world...brothers and sisters.
always nice when you come to holland , or when i come to your country.
Is it just me, or did a anyone else notice the old copy and paste maneuver by our dear new member? Sounds fishy......new alias? Just sayin'. That's all. CoC
at the convention recently, i can remember different reasons being given as to why the end is near.
pick whatever one suits you best but basically it goes, 'because this and that has happened, the end is ever closer.'.
well here are some of my ridiculous opinions stated as fact, just to prove a point.. if you put pepperoni on pizza, there is no way a person will reject it.
BTTT
